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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.05.09 13:28:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 09/05/2008 13:27:47
Originally by: Telemicus Thrace
The Amarr Empire continues to murder
What about the Minmatars murdered by the Defiants, by conflict between your tribes, or as a result or your barbaric rituals?
And what about the slaves murdered by Ushra'Khan pilots?
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.05.10 08:26:00 -
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Originally by: Ugleb Our pilots are already in the area engaging the foe and actively targetting slave transports to recover our people,
Have you noticed that when you lose one of your ships around half of the cargo inside is typically destroyed?
Tell me, how does it feel to kill around half of the people you claim to be rescuing?
How many Minmatar children have you murdered this week, Ugleb?
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.05.11 22:14:00 -
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Originally by: Karn Mithralia
There is serious doubt any slaves are killed during our operations
On the contrary, this issue has been brought up again and again, and your comrades have as far as I know never denied that slaves are killed when they attack transports.
Perhaps you should spend less time fraternising with anarchists and Sani Sabik cultists and more time trying to stay in touch with reality.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.05.12 09:46:00 -
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Originally by: Karn Mithralia Edited by: Karn Mithralia on 12/05/2008 00:32:48
Slaver Blake I refer you to the post by Kade on the first page - that casts serious doubt on the assumption slaves are lost wheh we shoot the transports the empire uses to carry them.
Of course, I imagine that you're too busy looking forward to your next meeting with Sani Sabik cultists to notice the slave bodies in the wrecks that you leave behind.
I could point you to any one of the hundreds of kill-mails on your kill-board that show that when a ship is destroyed, a portion of the contents of its cargo hold are also destroyed. Are you seriously suggesting that the cargo in a non pod controlled vessel is somehow preserved during an explosion while the cargo in a pod controlled vessel is not?
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.05.13 12:26:00 -
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Originally by: Telemicus Thrace As we have said, while liberating slaves from cargo holds is a fairly safe action these days it is indeed true that ship crews will suffer casualties during rapid decompression.
There is nothing anyone can do about that. Slavers use Matari slaves to crew their ships for a couple of good reasons. Matari are far more competent as engineers as is clearly shown by ships like the Vagabond, Rapier or Broadsword. The other is the idea they have that if faced with risking the lives of the very people we mean to save we will not attack their ships.
This is clearly no choice at all, if we do not risk the lives of those ship crews then the slavers would be free to massacre colonies at will. As long as the Amarr are a space faring race they will use innocent hostages as a shield to protect them while they go about their genocide. The only ways to change this are for the slavers to stop using slaves and hostages aboard their ships or for the decent people of the cluster to end the space faring days of the Empire once and for all.
I am happy with either outcome, I just want to see my people free. Sadly the slavers force us to make the choice, risk the slaves crewing their ships or let the vessel go and watch another colony die.
Oh my, where to start with the inaccurate and prejudiced rubbish emitted by Thrace?
I again ask those who persist with this nonsense that destroying ships carrying slaves does not endanger those slaves to look at their own kill-boards, where they will see multiple kill-mails listing destroyed slaves.
As for slaves being used as human shields on ships, I typically use whoever is the most efficient crew member for a given task. If I were to use someone less efficient, then it would affect the running of the ship.
On top that, the idea that the Ushra'Khan are forced to kill their kind in this manner to prevent slavers from massacring colonies is ludicrous. Here's a dose of simple logic for those who believe that: if slavers went around massacring colonies willy-nilly where would their slaves come from?
As such, phrases such as "...or let the vessel go and watch another colony die" are completely inaccurate. Is Thrace seriously suggesting that every slave transport that they attempt to destroy would go on to destroy an entire colony? Surely if this were true, then given the number of slave transports operating in the Empire there would be no Minmatar colonies left anywhere!
The simple fact of the matter is that these self-styled freedom fighters along with their Sani Sabik sympathising leader don't care about the people they claim to be fighting for. In truth, their only motivations as their blood-lust and their hatred of the Amarrian people.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.05.15 09:20:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 15/05/2008 09:20:51
Originally by: Kade Jeekin
Originally by: Merouk Baas I fight alongside my friends, and because they need me... I despise slavery
Then you have a problem.
- Your friends are slavers.
- Your corporation is a CVA Holder in Providence, a slaver alliance.
Now is the time for your friendship to end.
And your alliance leader is a Sani Sabik sympathiser.
Perhaps now is the time for your friendship with him to end, hypocrite.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.05.16 09:09:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 16/05/2008 09:10:43 Edited by: Rodj Blake on 16/05/2008 09:10:02
Originally by: AltBier Edited by: AltBier on 16/05/2008 08:58:10
Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri They aren't your people.
You seriously claim that the slaves which you hold and trade are not Minmatar - not our kin ?
Let's look at this logically, shall we? These workers were born in the Empire. As were their parents. As were their grandparents, and their great grandparents too.
They have never spoken to a "free" Minmatar, let alone seen Pator rise on Matar.
They have been brought up to respect their betters, to obey the rule of Amarrian law, and to strive towards enlightenment.
Do you really think they have anything in common with the likes of you?
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.05.16 10:34:00 -
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Originally by: Tissa
Originally by: Rodj Blake
They have never spoken to a "free" Minmatar, let alone seen Pator rise on Matar.
What would happen to them if you did hear them speak of a free minmatar? I weep for my poor brothers and sisters who have been denied the beautiful sight of our home worlds, it is cruel beyond compare.
I've visited there.
It's an eyesore.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.05.16 10:35:00 -
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Originally by: zoolkhan
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Let's look at this logically, shall we? These workers were born in the Empire. As were their parents. As were their grandparents, and their great grandparents too.
So youre able to provide evidence that those people, their parents and even grandparents are not in the "empire" because theyve been carried there in the first place with one of those slave raids like those so well documented in this feed: day of darkness
With other words, youre saying - slave raids do not happen today. that is something that only happened three generations or longer ago? Seriously?
Oh come on now.
What is it, a third of all Minmatars in the Empire compared to a quarter in the Republic?
Do we really need to go through the maths?
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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